If anyone knows what it is supposed to be, then I. To Freddie Agnir and others for spending time on the table showing what you learned from Hal and being willing to help. most of philipeno player are using Busty. Unfortunately, it might be expensive to call him from your house in Russia. Very sorry to hear about Hal Houle's passing. By: Search Advanced search…Years ago, in a galaxy far, far away (in RSB, an internet pool newsgroup before AZ came along) he labeled Hal Houle a heretic for preaching this mystical and magical system called CTE. Examples include Hal Houle’s 3angle system- , CTE, and SAM. A key factor in CTE is that the shooter learns to largely disengage his conscious mind from the aiming process. I've met Hal a few times. A. Q. Efren: Oh, aim. For the newer amongst you who have been reading about Hal Houle and his systems, here is a description that is I believe in his own words. . Hal Houle was a great man that changed the way I see the game of pool. you read his posts and you know he doesn't have a clear understanding about these pivot systems and he keeps putting his foot in his mouth. S. “When you’re one step ahead of the crowd you’re a genius. way I aim is I am alway shooting cue ball center but I am using the edge of the shaft. Ask The InstructorIt's a useless question, no one knows. Or match what is on the. . TATE AzB Gold Mensch. Nov 12, 2019 - Answers to frequently-asked questions about Hal Houle's 3-angle aiming system. . ROTFLMAO!! I can see all members of the Fab5 clicking on this thread hoping I saw the light like they have. Anyways, CTE had been a point of discussion on RSB and Hal calls me one afternoon and starts off with, "Lou, this is Hal Houle. Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. Although, like San Jose Dick, the math is over my head and the physics lingo wrecks my game because I am thinking about when I play, I KNOW that there is merit to these systems and I will rejoice when the math and science guys figure it out and give people like Hal Houle and Ron V. This method may not be for everyone, as it takes an analytical mind to wrap your head around. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. Was great to hear his stories. The questions is how many have even CONSIDERED. I am aiming base on the hal houle system but using the edge of shaft to aiming point. M is a visual aiming method. And who would have been the first to do it? YOU GUESSED IT IF YOU SAID PAT JOHNSON, who was the first in 1997 to go after Hal Houle on RSB and then other users. I have played around with CTE for ~ 2 years. It was posted here about 6. And by honest try, I mean give it at least 10 tries, hopefully. This quote came from R. I know Hal Houle there are only 3 or 4 shots in pool. It occurred to me the newer members might not know who Hal Houle was. . showed me his swivel system (similar to Hal's system), light aiming system and shadow aiming. . At the end of the day Aiming Systems are being proven to work and accepted by more and more people. Most of my aiming is based on several of the things he taught me. Eventually, I became his successor. Joey: But what is your system to aim? Efren: I aim for pocket. If you and I were on a table for me to show you, you'd easily agree. Hal Houle learned that through CTE a player can quickly tap into the purity of aiming. The main reason why CTE is COMPLETE BULLSHIT (and, I’m sure, made up as somebody’s joke to show how dumb people are), is that there’s no discussion in it. IT WAS ILLOGICAL AND STILL IS TO MANY As a young man Hal Houle traveled around the country with Greenleaf as they made their way through one pool room after another with Hal doing his best to keep Greenleaf off the booze until they at least. . #4. GaryB AzB Silver Member. . pj chgo . He has never stopped after 25 years. Mary Lou Houle 04/11/1930 - 11/21/2022Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. and I get all da rolls. 5 + 2. If you would like a copy, email me atThe answers I received, from Houle followers, defied the laws of geometry and, as such, were absurd. I have been shooting pool off and on for about 25 years, so if I am using one, I would have to assume it is the ghost ball, but I cannot tell. Cherished mother of. Daughter of the late Anton and Elizabeth Heinsen. From the very first ball i. He got it. According to both the inventor of CTE (Hal Houle) and Stan himself, Stan Shuffet’s CTE Pro One only works because the table has 2x1 dimensions. S. Just very different ways of seeing the two balls,. . They were posted in 2017 and remain today. Hal was a veteran of the U. You know this is false. To Hal Houle for seeking me out in Denver and introducing me to aiming systems. My goal, to which I am willing to dedicate a good amount towards, is to promote the aiming systems of Hal Houle and those who teach them. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. He retired from Ottawa Hills Memorial Park after over 20 years as an "Underground Condominium Salesman. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. Condolences to his wife and family. . A few years ago I was working on an aiming system of my own design (as far as I know this is my own design, I may have been inspired by something I've seen, but I don't think so). Here's a graphic and basic. EVER allow Fast Larry to post on AZ under his name with your consent, approval, and blessing from now until the day you leave AZ or. Army and was stationed in Germany during the Korean Conflict. Recognizing those. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. All I can I can say for now is that NO ONE loved pool more than Hal. Houle's aiming system to his students in the future. as long as the thread stays alive, and you post. systems that he currently endorses. B. Ask The InstructorI'm pretty sure he was from the Albuquerque neck of the woods. Stan Shuffett entered the picture a week ago or so and invited to teach me his CTE/Pro One Aiming System. I've shot pool for a good portion of my life but never took it to the next level. All of Hal's systems used the 3 line fractions. Hal Houle knew Greenleaf and probably Fez. . The 15 - 30 - and 45. Hal and I had only a phone relationship, never having met him in person. It is looked upon as extrordinary, but it is a duplicate of the Sailor's system only much less detailed and much less comprehensive. By: Search Advanced search…However, Hal Houle (there's that name again) also created a STICK AIMING SYSTEM that had nothing to do with CENTERS and EDGES. S. I'm told that Hal Houle recognises this and recommends the adjustment method diagrammed and described below. side (plus "real thin") no matter how you do it. Hal Houle learned that through CTE a player can quickly tap into the purity of aiming. Search titles only. #2. Im guessing this is based on possible points for the QB and object ball. It also had absolutely nothing to do with CONTACT POINTS. S. left side of shaft to right left and right side of the shaft to go right. as was Hal's in "defining" "backhand english" as a method to return to center ball. You can learn it by calling Hal. . The black lines represent the Center-to-Edge aim and the resultant undercutting that would result. Mr. The step by step process will be revealed. . JoeyA, Always glad to share my knowledge with those who sincerely want to learn the game. I don't care if I change your mind. On the first occasion I spoke to him for a while, and then I played on the adjacent table while he schooled a couple people for several hours. . Barbara Houle. ” Hal Houle once said that the top 200 players in the world used his aiming system. By: Search Advanced search…I really was hesitant to bring this up and face the wrath of khan if this has already been clearly explained but I can't find it so can someone please point. So yesterday, I watched the first several videos of Stan Shuffett's CTE Pro-1 series. CTE PRO. A few are not pleasant from those that do not. JoeyInCali Maker of. Silver Member. But in my opinion if it wasn't for Hal there wouldn't be CTE. I'm pretty sure he was from the Albuquerque neck of the woods. If you, as a pool enthusiast and player are interested in improving your game by becoming proficient with CTE (Center To Edge) Aiming, it won't be here. I was just wondering what aiming systems are geometrically correct? I've been looking into different aiming systems lately because I think it might be. Because Hal Houle and Stan Shuffett created them Click to expand. And I listened. He ran with Jimmy Moore, I think. If there were 10 Commandments of CTE this would be the first one. As one of the 1st Hooligans from RSB, I thank you very much for the book and thousands of hours of. The 15 - 30 - and 45. In this example the pot required is a thinner hit than half ball, lets say 35 degrees. He has posted his phone number -- the new one in Pennsylvania (I think). I reside in Russia and. . He cues on the edge of the cue ball and then on the last stroke moves to. My name is Hal Houle. The Master BCA instructor is quite. So if you simply looked at a shot as a 3/4 cover which I think is about 15 degrees then you could adjust a little to the right or left and see if you are on. There is no one on the planet who does not use an aiming system - all pool players started out using a system. M is a visual aiming method. Aiming ConversationYou mean the same Hal Houle who said there are only three cut angles in pool because “pocket slop”, right? lol Being a pool professional doesn’t mean you know much - probably the opposite, in fact. "Hal" Houle, age 82, passed away on May 29, 2014. . . I would telephone every few months checking in with him or he would call me and we would talk. " Hal's greatest joy was. Hal Houle was without a doubt the greatest LATERAL THINKER in history when it came to POOL AIMING SYSTEMS! He developed over 20 aiming systems for pool and each one was way OUTSIDE THE BOX VISUALLY and in PERFORMANCE. "Your" system exists because of the efforts of Hal Houle to bring the concept of ball to ball objective aiming systems into mainstream pool instruction. you have nothing to lose. Silver Member. A. Too bad and bullshit if that's the mindset. If you look at most shots they can be grouped into one of these three angles in a general sense. Without having tried this method on the table I want to acknowledge the spirit of innovation that exists that motivates players to run with concept. Search titles only. . But these words already existed and weren't redefined or coined. And he's had an internet woody on ever since trying to discredit anyone that teaches or promotes any aiming system that is based off of Hal's. halhoule AzB Silver Member. Daughter of the late Anton and Elizabeth Heinsen. Hal Houle, during his research with aiming came to understand that the spheres we use for playing pool have 360 ticks on their circumferences. 0. JB Cases Silver Member. 4. . #1. . Hal Houle told this story to me a good number of years ago and he told it to everyone he talked to on the phone starting back in the 1990's. i teach professional aiming systems. By: Search Advanced search…Ron V. Glad you had a chance to see a real pool room. M is aiming by the numbers. Hal, what he created, and those who followed will live forever. It can't get any more center pocket than that. ” In TP A. I had a lesson fron Stan Shuffet and have had a phone conversation Hal Houle. In my opinion if you HONESTLY wanted to learn CTE then. Instruction & Ask the pros. ) CTE originated from Hal Houle. Hal Houle has taught a lot of people CTE and one of the people who took it a lot more seriously than the rest of the people is a guy named Stan Shuffett. . They could care less about 90/90 or the SEE System. pj chgo . There are many Great's with completely different strokes and "aiming" methods. Jul 25, 2005. Some people do it automatically while others spend hours and many aiming systems trying to find it. Silver Member. Anyone who's watched me, talked to me on these boards, etc. Landon Shuffett vs Earl Strickland in the Diamond 10-Ball 10 Foo…The Hal Houle Point and Pivot system is a billiard aiming system that uses the geometry, layout, and design of a pool table, as well as some common assumptions. Both of these men are right. Search titles only. Why are you so obsessed with me, PJ?RIP Mr Houle Dave. These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. NO ADJUSTMENT IS NECESSARY unless you have situations like sticky/dirty balls or highly polished balls. Also, now in effect, all. AND ACCURATE. If you would like a copy, email me at The answers I received, from Houle followers, defied the laws of geometry and, as such, were absurd. . There is a link for an interview with Jimmy and Rick Owens, his relative, just before he passed. It was posted here about 6. I hoped that he would chime in and help explain away the apparent dilemma. He must have been up in his 80's; not sure. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small. If anyone would like to see the Contact and Pivot aiming or any of the Hal Houle systems that I know,(small ball, 3 lines, points of light, stick aiming, etc. he was beat to death, hung out to dry, and CRITIZED by all the nay sayers, who could not understand what he could. When you’re two steps ahead, you’re a crackpot. By: Search Advanced search…This is CTE video of the day #2 (48) - CTE CONTROVERSY Regulation 2 1/4" balls being shot into 2 1/2" pockets with reducers. . Christopher lives on the same street as the following people: Roshelly Aviles · Susan M Heffelfinger · Anne E Vonneida · Hal Houle · Julia B Houle · Andrea J Partridge · David A Partridge · K Partridge · Sonia S Houle · Paula M Santos · Dana M Hackman · Trevor L Hackman · Scott Morgan · Mark E Barowski · Ann M Polukis · Michele M. Instruction & Ask the pros. I have to say that Hal Houle gave me the aiming perspective that I use about 90 percent of the time. I believe Fez, Jimmy, and Ralph Greenleaf, were partners. I commented that, from my recollection, Hal Houle was a decent guy and had always been forthcoming in our prior discussions. I had a lesson fron Stan Shuffet and have had a phone conversation Hal Houle. Teach professionals, very advanced players, and road money players. Harold G. . Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. Search titles only. Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. Oct 12, 2022 #56 phreaticus said:A CTE/PRO ONE video is coming! The video will present the exact visual nature of CTE. 82 m (5 ft 11 + 1 ⁄ 2 in) Weight: 72 kg (159 lb; 11 st 5 lb) Team information; Current team:. Thank you thank you thank you. I keep reading the term 'feel' player - a feel player is simply a player who started with an aiming system and used it long enough. None of them were related to math and geometry. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. not so good, sorry. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. I am so glad Hal is finally starting to get some if the respect he do rightfully deserves. By: Search Advanced search…Hal houle is the creator of this system. Basically the system is about a limited number of aiming points Full Ball hit 3/4 Ball hit (approx 15 degrees) 1/2 Ball hit (approx 30 degrees) 1/4 Ball hit (approx 45 degrees) And the Thin Hit Do a search for Hal Houle for. Takes his three angles and makes aiming easier to teach. The Sailor's aiming system, which I detail in my book, is to me the only accurate way to aim at a pool ball. To me, the bold and red highlighted parts seem to indicate that Hal did not believe that the system described was able to directly pocket all balls on the table. They're very similar with the exception of starting out with an inside of center alignment to parts of the OB and then pivoting back to CCB with Shish. I shared this with a friend, and he wanted to draw diagrams. I do have a slight background as I have had some interaction with some of the CTE names. My schedule for lessons is resuming as usual and all courses will reflect the newly redefined CTE/PRO ONE Aiming System. i teach professional aiming systems. The quality was amazing and I can’t wait to take pics in these two piece sets. Hal was a veteran of the U. Joey: You know, Hal Houle's center to edge aiming system? Efren: Oh, my english. These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. . Guess the system. Just very different ways of seeing the two balls,. Guess the year. that includes reyes, souquet, archer, ortman, bustamante, and on and on. Search titles only. This is an EXACT aim. I use it more in practice and do not focus on the pivot when I play. But, sorry to disappoint because IT DOES WORK. This is just what I've heard. Pro's try to explain how they "Aim". . This includes; caroms, single rail banks, double rail banks, 1, 2, 3, and 4 rail banks, and double kiss banks. If you want to learn more about these and other -shot aiming systems, seecut the . It has NEVER been enforced on those members who have free reign to say whatever they want negatively or disparagingly about Hal Houle, Stan Shuffett, CTE, Shishkabob, and students and usersJUST FINISHED reading mosconis autobiography for the tenth time. REP to you dave. C. Well beyond the life of the lemming tribe. If there is throw, then aiming exactly at the "contact point" where the ghost ball was should cause you to miss. hal houle. #2. Hal is no longer with us, but fortunately, he showed his breakthrough systems to many players. In light of DCP's thread, I'm curious to what everyone thinks about what realistic goals a player who is serious about the game should set? And also a. Jul 25, 2005. The methods that Hal Houle teaches are the most exact and precise ways to aim that I have ever seen. Hugo Houle: Born 27 September 1990 (age 33) Sainte-Perpétue, Canada: Height: 1. Started playing in 1934. Im guessing this is based on possible points for the QB and object ball. According to both the inventor of CTE (Hal Houle) and Stan himself, Stan Shuffet’s CTE Pro One only works because the table has 2x1 dimensions. I'm still confused on the exact steps of stepping the cueball. S. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small group for 25 years on multiple pool forums but have found a home on this forum since 2003. :grin-square: Perhaps the video will be large enough to honor Hal Houle for what he created. Joey: You know, an aiming system where you aim from the center of the cue ball to the edge of the object ball and then pivot and. Was great to hear his stories. To read the pool playing tutorial for the Hal Houle Point and Pivot System, click the link to go on to the full pool playing tips article. And I heard. How does Hal Houle’s three-angle system work? Hal Houles’ 3-angle system is a type of fractional-ball aiming system. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small. Whether it be Hal Houle’s Center-to-Edge, Stan Shuffett’s Pro1 or Ron Vitello’s 90/90, offset and pivot systems afford players objective and repeatable methods of ball-pocketing (without the guesswork of ghost ball or other traditional methods. View more. By: Search Advanced search…Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. Basically, the claim is there are only three different aims for all cut shots: a “15° cut,” a “30° cut,” and a “45° cut. My name is Hal Houle. His credentials are very impressive, with Pro player being one of his accomplishments. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. He welcomes inquiries and does not charge for his advice. Still doing it. . I am proficient at ghost ball and contact points, I just was looking into a system to double check my aim if I am uncertain. gentlemen - upside down glasses are the NUTS. instructors do not have a clue about aiming systems. Align the the cue about 1/2 tip off center from the cue ball. There is an aiming system called "CTE" (center to edge) originally conceived by Hal Houle. View more. By: Search Advanced search…Hal Houle may've been the first to use the word "visual" as a noun relating to pool shots, just as he or Stan was probably the first to use the words "visual perception" in relation to visualizing pool shots. I lived in Greeley, about an hour away from Denver at the time. Silver Member. The following was passed on to me by someone who was there in the loop and a close friend of Hal. Just for you, here is my answers to your queries. The Sport Palace was a unique place for sure. Maybe it was already a given between us and we worked on other things. this came about with lateral thinking - thinking far outside the box by hal houle and then stan shuffett. (dont worry im not bragging, i still miss cuts like its no ones buisness) The reason for this is early on, someone told me if the shot is straight in. Just reading the 1st chapter brings back so many memories of my teachings with Hal. And in fact I do credit Hal Houle and Stan and everyone working on objective aiming for keeping me interested in playing. Then after I got home. . Houle is a surname. Even then, the adjustment is minimal. It's this period of time that Jimmy Moore incorporated his pivot aiming technique. 5railkick said: I read on the other forum that Hal uses a 2 angle method to aim every shot. This is a no english system but with back hand english there is very little correction. . . Using your attacks to further the reach of CTE is merely a way to turn your evil. He truly was one of a kind who made pool his lifetime achievement in so many ways. On the first occasion I spoke to him for a while, and then I played on the adjacent table while he schooled a couple people for several hours. Hal Houle said that there are only 3 angles that are important. & Mrs. . I commented that, from my recollection, Hal Houle was a decent guy and had always been forthcoming in our prior discussions. Billiards (RSB) describing how only 3 lines were required to make nearly all cut shots on a 2:1 pool table with angles from 0 to about 90 degrees. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. . . These were all results of his own thought experiments and practical applications on the table. Hal was a veteran of the U. . But does anyone have a diagram or can at least explain simply what the. Here's another juicy secret I call Pivot Aim, used by Johnny Archer and Efren Reyes, and taught by me, Hal Houle and others to an elite few before this article. You won't be so lucky. . . pj chgo . Aiming ConversationI will be at Q-masters on the final Saturday of the US Open. Teach professionals, very advanced players, and road money players. See this image: The pivot point is the pink dot on the cue. A. I have read a few CTE threads but not really posted much. . . None of them were related to math and geometry. By: Search Advanced search…Specifically in regards to CTE? We've gone from it can't work to it can't work as advertised. 5 + 2. We identified 117 records related to "Paul Houle" in the state of Florida. Hal Houle and I talked many times over the past few years and I regret not having the urge to learn more about CTE from him. . I've always been eager to hear anything that Stan had to say, especially when it comes to pool. 11, I show that these aims are equivalent to 3/4-, 1/2-, and 1/4-ball-hits and the 15- and 45° angles are not exact. The method of backhand English wouldn't have changed to "not backhand English. 5" corner pocket (less from closer, more from farther away). May 1, 2023 #254 Dan White said: I think CTE discussion is more interesting that what color chalk do you use or which cue maker screwed somebody over this week, lol. The National Billiard Academy is the only school authorized to teach the specialized Aiming Systems of Hal Houle. . I watched all dvds I listed above and they are some good and some bad. The inventor of CTE was Hal Houle. These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. That's one reason I can't stand the really shitty comments denigrating them and their students. Here is a description of an early version of CTE taught by Hal Houle: For a “thick hit” (a small cut angle, less than about 15°) to the left: Align the cue. I think Hal's latest way of describing it, the "3-point" version where. In TP A. Was great to hear his stories. Also let me know if you disagree with any of the existing. Oh wait, I forgot. . Aiming ConversationSearch titles only. Share your videos with friends, family, and the worldHal Houle would have been so very proud, and I myself am proud for you and Hal. He has a beautiful 4 1/2 x 9 Diamond table and light. Hal was an eccentric guy who would call you by phone while you were at a table and talk you through his various methods of using CTE while also regaling you of stories about his buddy Ralph Greenleaf. Basic aiming systems Wondering if anyone has a story involving Hal Mix (RIP). . According to both the inventor of CTE (Hal Houle) and Stan himself, Stan Shuffet’s CTE Pro One only works because the table has 2x1 dimensions. (since we have nothing but the edge of the object. M is not exclusive but normally taught by SPF Instructors. If there were 10. Tom Simpson was 20 years younger than Hal. There are players that swear by them, and just as many that say they don't work. Would anyone who was taught by Hal,or have any stories they would like to share about the man Hal Houle, and give us. I'm a completely new player.